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Posted by Midnights-Ocean - 2 days ago


As happens every year, there's a new slew of hardware synths hitting the market and the nearly 25 year old argument continues.


d00d y u not jst get plug-in. save m0ney?!


Now I appreciate both in and outside the box music production and I know the ups and downs for both, as I own both.


This year, so far this was one of my fave replies:


(WxkR)4 days ago

1. Because we feel the difference.

2. Because we love the fact that when our computer crashes, is updated, or simply is turned off, our synths are still there and are functional.

3. Because we know how to play keyboards.

4. Because we like to modify sounds with knobs and sliders that yield consistent results so that we can sculpt sounds with great precision.

5. Because we come up with musical ideas all the time and hate long set up times.

6. Because we can sell our hardware synths that are not inspiring us any more.

7. Because music is too important for us to restrict it to a box

8. Because we getting immersed in sound much more than getting fixated on a screen.

9. Because we adore coming home to a studio that looks like it belongs to a musician and not like a standard corporate employee office.

10. Because there is a community of fellow synth lovers with whom we like to exchange ideas.

11. Because we prefer this kind of fetishism to other, more mundane ones.

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Round half of those are a bit circumstantial imo. 2, 6, 9, 11 and especially 8 I can sympathize with though.


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Posted by Midnights-Ocean - April 23rd, 2019


So I did it finally. From earliest memory to present, the most influential and/or significant pieces of music you heard in your life. Rules are relatively simple. Tunes only, no full albums. It's not about what music you liked or recommend the most. It's about what impacted you, for better or worse, musically during your journey in life up till today. Something to keep in mind, the experience of the moment when you heard a tune is significant. It could be a tune you listened to a million times and shaped your style or it could be a tune you heard once and it became part of a highly significant memory in your life. The order should be in the order you HEARD them NOT the order in which they were released/created. Active links to each tune should be posted with artist name or at least listening source. Try not to post more than 6 works by the same artist, in order to avoid redundancy and focus attention to those works that really impacted you. Try to avoid more than 3 posts that are not directly a piece of music but are still music related. Add decade indication. Try to keep the list at a count of roughly 100 posts or so (150 max), again to try to force focus on the most significant pieces.


Mine took me a few weeks but here goes:


1980-------------------------------------------v


https://youtu.be/Fmi5zHg4QSM Sergei Prokofiev


https://youtu.be/51oPKLSuyQY Yes


https://youtu.be/8B1oIXGX0Io herbie hancock


https://youtu.be/oEf8gPFFZ58 mega man 3 NES


https://youtu.be/zYxaoRVofE8 frank zappa


https://youtu.be/Rt75y38J00s joe walsh


https://youtu.be/0vMwGrQx5xM zz top


https://youtu.be/7LLzPPFc21o Yes


https://youtu.be/yJq9_EqcwQU herbie hancock


https://youtu.be/oFnoM37IQec Jerry Goldsmith


https://youtu.be/cHkaIHRK35g zz top


https://youtu.be/7zZs2Mj-kKQ Yes


https://youtu.be/ct5-__9VTAY Leonard Rosenman


https://youtu.be/ZEWwZNUafKo tears for fears


https://youtu.be/sofU3EMa4xc James Horner


https://youtu.be/68RRQNix6l0 fine young cannibals


https://youtu.be/ZnqEUfrBmzI Wendy Carlos


1990---------------------------------------------------v


https://youtu.be/CpU5640iE5k sonic 2 sega genesis


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV95Yu6gZSY&list=PL3ABE2FBA2900C03E vangelis 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rA_u3CCPa4&list=PL0D2CCAC050B0B904&index=2 koji kondo


https://youtu.be/LaTGrV58wec C+C music factory


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLrmI5IqGyU&list=PL0D2CCAC050B0B904&index=7 koji kondo


https://youtu.be/3PHdoqU7g74?t=12 bee gees


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi0APizJuRU&list=PL0D2CCAC050B0B904&index=14 koji kondo


https://youtu.be/mtQtbWifobQ sonic 3 sega genesis


https://youtu.be/LMGdRgtblmk stereo MC’s


https://youtu.be/hb5QaCfm7bg?t=70 michael angelo batio


https://youtu.be/GZH1o8N9PXU sonic 3 sega genesis


https://youtu.be/kLp_Hh6DKWc grieg


https://youtu.be/PPC4wXguSjs Jon Holland sega genesis


https://youtu.be/Dyx4v1QFzhQ real to real


https://youtu.be/55rtX4wCJPM sonic 3


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8l3XNtu1nQ&list=PLFADADFD88F5B0565&index=39 DKC II


https://youtu.be/qOQZS8_9DEw wiz n liz sega genesis


https://youtu.be/GwPvLMlGWPI benny goodman & gene krupa


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rDO0vi47Ws ecco tides of time sega genesis


https://youtu.be/cBMUG2GnLb0 Beethoven


https://youtu.be/-7Fvalk31Kk mega man x snes


https://youtu.be/lndBgOrTWxo donkey kong country II


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W1kJx9pwME molitva sv benedikta


https://youtu.be/8H1nIBllGDY sonic cd (US) sega cd


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GZzpgSwizY&list=PL3F37BC9E9A5DC61D&index=37 DKC III


https://youtu.be/kH1fsKK85Qo the real mcCoy


https://youtu.be/ZP7gYU7LL-c sonic cd (US game code) sega cd


https://youtu.be/QWHluhvS3D4 sonic 3d blast saturn


https://youtu.be/Ni3ixP60QPc sonic R


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3U1oLLxk0E&list=PL3F37BC9E9A5DC61D&index=28 DKC III


https://youtu.be/7kODOf2vuTg Yes


https://youtu.be/aD95SxjkzAU sonic cd (US)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGEs5a0v0fM&list=PLirSddeMOYZ5uPQHKUu_1hITPXVYNqKXK&index=4 Jon Holland


https://youtu.be/Co_kzXHZkio?t=2146 The Younger Younger 28s


https://youtu.be/lx4M9qqJw8E bubsy 3d play station 1


https://youtu.be/_PVjcIO4MT4 hendrix


https://youtu.be/dwWJ30PLhoo sonic cd (US game code)


https://youtu.be/lsSR7sBjhcc bubsy 3d play station


https://youtu.be/iqp2tzFCKek rom di prisco


https://youtu.be/nmWw10erNKY Saki Kaskas


https://youtu.be/Iel1mLJ0F_c bubsy 3d play station


https://youtu.be/nP6nKTu6TGY van halen


https://youtu.be/tj0DU7rTXuY asteroids ps1


https://youtu.be/5arFuwxJky8 rom di prisco


https://youtu.be/Wn2YxjPxnuk sonic 3d blast saturn


https://youtu.be/dUzQ3TPqRrQ bubsy 3d play station 1


https://youtu.be/2UaicKgrrgo rom di prisco


https://youtu.be/pRRHP1DfC_Y sonic cd (US game code)


https://youtu.be/ziX_f7rdFD4 rom di prisco


https://youtu.be/E0R03IKFS_w george duke


https://youtu.be/39xggE3eEWY Saki Kaskas


https://youtu.be/I-yxIQihRXM sega rally (sega saturn)


https://youtu.be/Y-q8Gtr4coM wild cherry


https://youtu.be/RbEpo_hmoLo frank zappa


https://youtu.be/VJyIoa25lEQ sonic cd JP


https://youtu.be/bnMAh-0wmhg MJ


https://youtu.be/h7SdYvN__vs peter gabrila


https://youtu.be/k84-cRlwz7I Soul coughing


https://youtu.be/l9_p-nhZXLg ost mai yamane cowboy bebop


https://youtu.be/Y1K9lnLBI40 humble brothers


https://youtu.be/ymNFyxvIdaM bomfunk mc’s


2000-----------------------------------------------v


https://youtu.be/_htZBRb6W00?t=34 ejay club world PS1


https://instaud.io/3xnu song entitled “forsaken” by unknown artist


https://youtu.be/ScJvQhWL7Lg the crystal method


https://youtu.be/FpFIxuuFwTQ caramell


https://youtu.be/LozCtsxp8oE chemical brothers


https://youtu.be/xBIE7ViCi2s MSI


https://youtu.be/EIVgSuuUTwQ ghost in the shell TV series


https://youtu.be/_BnvA8jIUbI chemical brothers


https://youtu.be/hBaanzYaLXg the crystal method


https://youtu.be/9lJ-v-Ex58w the seatbelts


https://youtu.be/CFM3WFt0LVQ george duke


https://youtu.be/MaU5qkQJ1e4 chemical brothers


http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ Ishkur


https://youtu.be/Inke9ToHaQI amon tobin


https://youtu.be/pWCIac-ChsM Rob Dougan


https://youtu.be/mCnJ2_xN2jU daft punk


https://youtu.be/41S7bP3wnRA Concord dawn


https://youtu.be/_mVW8tgGY_w Beethoven


https://youtu.be/K0wUqjE99PI clutch


https://youtu.be/H6ojLNsoi0w Akino Arai


https://youtu.be/zgfcCTdZZsE amon tobin


https://youtu.be/GVu0auaZu7s Bach


https://youtu.be/ZtTDKsT-1Fk clutch


https://youtu.be/ZJ2C6G1B_FI junkie XL


https://youtu.be/K3KakTN4uVA the crystal method


https://youtu.be/ThK6MckX0TU icp


https://youtu.be/qORYO0atB6g?t=38 beastie boys


https://youtu.be/hse70vZdaCI concord dawn


https://youtu.be/8YU8mF5sbDE soul coughing


https://youtu.be/RV64woSXcts mike patton & sepultura


https://youtu.be/fqiasBVGtX8 mc chris


2010--------------------------------------------------v


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXXo1YDA9tE&list=PL3ABE2FBA2900C03E&index=7 vangelis  


https://youtu.be/OffF0e2h4TU lost horizon


https://youtu.be/zmKcK2PiX6I steve roach


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUKVhrvPZnw Buxtehude


https://youtu.be/NvG-jqGsWSk Gas


https://youtu.be/-ZVdVuskkKU Beethoven


https://youtu.be/R1_odyWnSXY unisonic ascension


https://youtu.be/jtj300j129k widor


https://youtu.be/fhlz0-lCahM deich kind


https://youtu.be/inDfCPl5xII messiaen


https://youtu.be/9F8LxaIWoEE spudn i g g e r


https://youtu.be/g65oWFMSoK0 vivaldi


https://youtu.be/cnEQja0jBXs deich kind


https://youtu.be/PLrR8wTAGyI messiaen


https://youtu.be/Qhq1FDL0NNQ?t=12 pink guy


https://youtu.be/sPsw3QpBsUE prokofiev


https://youtu.be/MJ0GoNkR0xw?t=390 (clip rum time 6:30 – 20:19) the triumph of Maximilian


https://instaud.io/3xoM Bach


https://youtu.be/kyDKB3iwpeQ Michael Shrieve & Steve Roach


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhXoJKoUuXE&list=PLh4Eme5gACZEAazTK1vSZn3DCYJLQ4YHH&index=6 botw nintendo switch


https://youtu.be/mEFuhWLenTA Debussy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQAW-YsJXjs botw nintendo switch


https://youtu.be/AFVF-LaSpWE pigs in space


https://youtu.be/mdIP3hyxi3k deich kind


https://fullbucket.bandcamp.com/track/fr33ze Full Bucket


2020--------------------------------------------------------v


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Posted by Midnights-Ocean - April 2nd, 2019


As it seems, April fools has come and gone, with it bringing to new grounds, just a little but long awaited vindication of my "un-hip, elitist" musical ideology. This being the strict prohibition of any and all midi rips and 3rd party samples from my creative process/projects. Also with it, a more lenient avoidance of one button instant pattern devices/programs/sequencers. My record is, of course, not without blemish but I am happy they are greatly far and few between.


If there really is a crack down on rule violating unoriginal material, It's hard not to be smug or bitter. I've always done things "the hard way" by being as original as I could. Creating completely original content of high quality takes talent and a lot of time. Regardless of how good I may or may not be at it, I put a lot of effort into my works. Being ridiculed for that, takes it's toll. Especially when so many of the competitors create so quickly and easily, usually using the shortcuts. Quite painful in particular were the times I was pressured into doing covers, instead of originals, only to be trashed for making the cover distinctly "different" from the original. The exact criteria it seems, new grounds will now more strictly require for covers. For years I felt like I was one of the minority who actually read and followed new ground's original content/ownership rules. As far back as 2009 it was against the rules to post other people's works, even if one claimed to have changed them a bit.


It will be interesting to see what happens to the audio portals over the next few months. Although I will miss many of my favorite VG covers by others, and it is a little unnerving to see so much new grounds history being swept away, hopefully this will be the dawn of better days for original content creators. If you are one who has strived to be original but never received proper accolades, be encouraged. Perhaps you will be more appreciated in the future.


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Posted by Midnights-Ocean - March 22nd, 2019


Technology, it seems, acting through incentive, removes the human element from a modern musical equation. In the depths of the DAW, soft synths and sound automation, the human at the keyboard becomes more and more lost. Likely unknowingly, contributing less and less to the final outcome. Originality, staring into the digital void, is replaced with the all one sameness of a program.


Thus, the double edged sward of technology. Giving power to the creative and poor, while stripping credible artists, both rich and poor, of their sonic identity. Promoting faux creators, intoxicated with illusions of grandeur, the intellectual foundation of the arts, erodes into oblivion.


When society grades music based on superficial qualities, instead of human composition, a runaway loss of creative incentive ensues. Music making, requiring less than 10% human input, renders a music “maker”, no longer. What remains but a dishonest shadow, possessing a program, or perhaps, does the program possess them?


With a download and a click, one can create shining worlds of false, empty magic. Death and darkness, whispering sweet lies, as their peer's intellect dies.  


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Posted by Midnights-Ocean - February 28th, 2019


Some advice concerning manipulative people. Again, mostly reminding myself lessons I continually relearn. Also, hopefully encouraging others who’ve been victimized.


I’ve had many encounters with manipulators over the years. They come in many shapes, sizes and flavors. One of the primary objectives of a manipulator is to first disarm your mental defenses. One of their primary tools is to use your own emotions again you. The game: Get you in a disposition so if you become emotional over injustices inflicted upon your person, YOU look like the guilty party.


Above all else manipulators are obsessed with being clever and being in control of other people (sick).


Manipulating someone is by function an attempt to bypass their free will. Thus the nature of it is dishonest, usually malevolent and always self serving. Easily 99% of the time, the person being manipulated does NOT benefit. Manipulators are self centered. Self enthroned and often conceited. Projecting into others, a deep hatred for themselves or for what they feel they will not achieve (crab pot syndrome).


Conceited [con-ceit-ed]: Adjective. Ingeniously contrived. Holding to fantasies that falsify a discouraging reality.  


Crab Mentality: In human behavior members of a group will attempt to reduce the self-confidence of any member who achieves success beyond the others, or halt their progress, out of envy, resentment, spite, conspiracy, or competitive feelings.


Some most noted attributes of manipulative people:

Sudden attitude change

Projection (hypocrisy)

Disingenuous apologies

Exploiting plausible deniability

Using illegitimate parallels (comparing apples to oranges)

Disproportionate Aggression (being overly aggressive without factual justification)

Filibustering

Denial (ignoring factual evidence)

Mob Tactics (playing people off of one another)

Extortion

Intellectual thievery

Blackmail


Though these traits are not exclusive to manipulators, at least a few will always correlate well. Along those lines manipulators can be very petty. No illogic is often bared from use. A manipulator might claim, I am manipulating people simply buy writing this article (projection).


A general example of manipulation: Lets say, a person gains your trust, then comes to you for help with barely a rough sketch for a tune. With the promise of cross promotion, you fill in the remaining 90% of the material, creating a finished product. However, upon completion, said person takes full credit for your 90% and if/when you protest, are framed as attempting to steal said person’s ideas/work. The manipulator got what they wanted, with the bonus of all guilt projected onto the victim.


You do not need to feel ashamed if you have fallen victim to these things. You are not alone and in most cases, you do NOT have to play these people’s sick games.  


~Continued in part 2~


Posted by Midnights-Ocean - February 28th, 2019


~Part 2~


The disingenuous teacher:


A common persona manipulators adopt is of the “teacher” or “mentor”. Naturally this suits their modus operandi quite well. Putting them in a prime position to manipulate unsuspecting people. Promising wisdom and better prosperity, as they take your existing knowledge for themselves. All the while leading you down a non-beneficial path. At first this type of manipulator often encourages you with great positivity. Usually the attitude then slowly morphs into one expecting/demanding your subservience. If at any time the manipulator suspects rebellion or feels your mind/talents can/will surpass their own, they might snap into a hostile aggression (sudden attitude changes). Oppressing your development. If a teacher/mentor who first appeared very friendly, suddenly looses their venom on you, simply for questioning them (asking the “wrong” question), you are probably dealing with a manipulator of some sort.


The very function of a true teacher or mentor is one of selflessness and honesty, which can be said, is a form of humility. In most cases a manipulator is completely incompatible with this function.


Example of a false mentor:

Say a mentor invites you under their wing. You present sophisticated, original artwork that you wish to market. They say you must simplify your art for marketability. You oblige, only to find they then claim you are only capable of creating simple unoriginal works. That you never created anything else. The manipulator brought you down to their level. They became superficially equal or greater than you, through clever means. In a way, manipulators are psychotic. Often preferring, for example, to spend vast time learning how to manipulate you into looking less educated than they are. Instead of simply spending said time, educating themselves to make it a true fact.


Manipulators are clever hypocrites. This can not be emphasized enough. To the point it could be said, they worship their own cleverness. A manipulator, for example, might find an alternative definition to terms used herein, in an attempt to discredit this article's arguments.


Clever [klev-er]: Adjective. Superficially skillful, witty or Facile [fas-il]: Acting or working with ease sometimes superficially.  


Mendacious [men-da-cious]: Adjective. Given to or characterized by deception or falsehood or divergence from absolute truth.


My message to anyone reading is simple: Be careful of anyone posing as a leader. If they turn out to be a manipulator, you will probably find them subjugating you. Making you do THEIR dirty work to further THEIR subversive ambitions. The only "friendly" relation you will likely end up with is, serving your tyrannical leader, wondering why you should feel obliged to.


The world is full of manipulators. Mainly because they are widely tolerated. Though there may be times you are forced to deal with them, most times you do NOT have to tolerate them. You should NEVER feel obliged to tolerate them or their games. A fundamental part of their tactic is to keep you engaged in their game. You can say NO. The sooner the better. Manipulators will attempt to make you look weak for walking away but IT IS IN YOUR BEST INTEREST TO DO SO. The more you engage with a manipulator, the more you inevitably loose. In this regard they are much like TROLLS. Even if you can outwit them, you still have lost your precious time. Time much better spent furthering your career. Your art. Your beneficial relations. Your life.  


Posted by Midnights-Ocean - February 27th, 2019


Bit of advice. To remind myself things I’ve learned too many times. Also, perhaps encouraging people, like myself, who might not be aggressive enough defending what they know to be tried and true.


The 12 (don’t)s


#1 Don’t rely on 1 set of monitors or 1 room to test mixes (especially an untreated room)

#2 Don’t close your mind to critique

#3 Don’t fail to test the validity of critique with proven scientific method

#4 Don’t mistake opinion for factual observation

#5 Don’t mistake a strong opinion for an educated one

#6 Don’t let uneducated, unproven, opinions dictate to you

#7 Don’t let people, who do not do what you do, take away the value of what you do

#8 Don’t allow yourself to be intimidated by social mob mentality or those who may wield it

#9 Don’t trust opinion over your gear (a spectral analyzer has no opinion to obscure the facts)

#10 Don’t stop furthering your education in your field

#11 Don’t let armatures convince you the utility of your education or gear is worthless

#12 Don’t let people take from you the merit of your own work and original ideas


So what inspired this? Since the move, I’ve been without a proper mixing room. I hadn’t tested my new room and thus, been in the dark concerning mixes. My past room and methods had given decent results. I’d learned better methods since then and expected better mixes. Newer peer pressure led me to believe, I was mixing poorly. So, instead of trusting my education and actually testing the claims with gear, I just ran with the critique. Making the adjustments I was pressured into, the mix sounded fine in the new room. My better knowledge said there was a bad reason why. The peer pressure insisted this was my “arrogance”.


The car stereo proved them wrong.


In the car, the mixes sucked out loud. In a way my better knowledge predicted. I tried blaming the car stereo to protect the peer’s image. Then I remembered, I didn’t learn all I had in the past, by blindly ignoring the science of audio engineering. Quite the contrary. So, I grabbed my old real time analyzer and gear, tested the new room and checked the car stereo for malfunction. Surprise surprise, training and gear wasn’t lying before and it didn’t lie now. Switched the room's monitors. Was forced to admit there was nothing wrong with the car. Took some notes. Did an EQ session and the mix came back to life, in the car, in the room, on phones. Kinda reminds me the time, way back when, someone in collage convinced me to mix on tracking monitors instead of mixing monitors (because they didn't know what they were doing).


Just wow. I have to say after all this is, be careful of social “leaders”. Just because someone’s knowledgeable or good at one set of things, doesn’t mean they are at others. Worse, if you dare to be knowledgeable or good at something they aren’t, they may try to drag you down. Making you look like the fool.


Unfortunately, some people, usually the aggressive kind, just plain don’t know what they are talking about sometimes. Worse, they often attempt to make up for unwillingness to educate themselves in your field, by pressuring you into a false narrative. One where your training or gear is “of little value”, “elitist”, "unneeded" or “outdated”. Like the loud guy at the gas station who strongly insists you take bad advice and your car suffers for it. Now, I have to fix numerous tunes. A bummer for sure. The silver lining though, is, to my embarrassment, life proves again, a simple set of truths when it comes to audio: Trust your education, use your gear, test critique, ignore the ignorant and stay confidant in your own hard work.  


In other words, if you have invested the time to develop the tools/talent to do a job well, don't let people take away those tools, simply because they are compelled to feel superior or whatever.


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Posted by Midnights-Ocean - August 28th, 2018


Found this channel a while back: https://www.youtube.com/user/mixbustv/featured 

Even if he's not covering the genre you are mixing, there's still some neat tricks to learn that can be applied to projects. 

Know of other mixing/mastering sites/channels? Post um. :)  


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Posted by Midnights-Ocean - August 26th, 2018


I've never been a box artist. I just go with the creative flow. Though I've been exposed to many many genres, I never made a point to really memorize the greater detail of their deffinitions. I try my best to tag appropriately when I post but I admit I some times do a quick lookup. 

 

This is the site I've been using for years: http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/

In your opinoin, how accruate is that site? 

Any recomendations for a online genre guide?  


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Posted by Midnights-Ocean - August 24th, 2018


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Because kratom is useful, safe and relatively cheap, the FDA ofcourse wants to make it illegal. Probably because big business is in bed with the FDA. Kratom no doubt will hurt opioid based drug sales. 

As some would expect, there's fake claims of kratom being dangerous like crystal meth. One such article I read, barely and briefly mentioned at the end, the study was of the street drug "krypton" (teens mixing kratom with cocaine) not pure Kratom. Another article being about the (Tibetan if memory serves) government having banned kratom. If you look into it, they later re-legalized it, admitting the ban was only because kratom was hurting the opium trade. Obvious typical reefer madness type propaganda.  

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